This episode was pre-recorded as part of a live continuing education webinar on demand. Ceus are still available for this presentation through ALLCEUs Register at ALLCEUs com, CounselorToolbox, Hi everybody, and welcome to your review of the Process of Screening. In this presentation, we’re going to review key skills for engagement, discuss factors impacting engagement, define screening explore how to do a screening, and identify types of screening instruments. Now screening is one of those steps that a lot of people will do, especially as a job. An entry-level job in mental health, if you’re working towards your hours for certification or licensure as an addiction counselor, you’re, probably going to be in a position at some point where you’re doing a fair amount of screening. So let’s learn how to do that. The first step in screening and assessment and even counseling is developing engagement and engagement means that you need to develop verbal and nonverbal skills to establish rapport and promote engagement. So how do you establish rapport? How do you connect with somebody when they walk into the office? Do you sit down with a clipboard and start writing right away? No, you want to be able to be open to being warm to make eye contact to respond to them in a culturally appropriate and culturally sensitive way. So you know you got to be aware of the people that you’re working with, whether you know how much eye contact is enough, how much is too much, etc. You want to be able to talk to people, and you know a lot of people when they’re coming in for a screening. You know, may not know what’s going on. You want to be able to put them at ease. So hopefully you know those are the skills that you already have, which is one of the reasons that you’re getting involved in this field. But screening means you know, first and foremost developing that relationship because the quality of the relationship with you is going to determine in many cases whether somebody goes on for the assessment and treatment if needed, you want to discuss with the clients the rationale, purpose, and procedures associated with screening an assessment so sit them down and say you know we’re going to do a screening for substance use, so we’re going to do a screening for depression. This is why we do it. You know because we know that whatever percentage of people in this area struggle with depression and that early intervention is a whole lot more effective than late intervention, so the earlier we can help people arrest the problem, then the better off they’re going to be, And this is what screening is going to, be you know, so they know if they’re going to get there, not going to get their blood drawn. They know you’re just going to sit there. You’re going to. Ask them five or six questions, and they’re going to be done because they may be thinking that you know they need to lay on the couch and tell you their deepest darkest secrets and they’re not ready to do that. Well, of course not they just met you, so let them know this is what screening is assess. Client’s immediate needs, including detoxification. If you’re meeting with somebody – and you know you notice that they’re under the influence of substances, then they may need detoxification. If you’re assessing them for substance, use or substance use disorders, and they admit that they have been using consistently or they’re under the influence, they may need detox, administer evidence-based screening and assessment instruments to determine clients, strengths, and needs, and we’re going to talk about some of those evidence-based instruments later, but you know you can use the cage you can use the Sassi. You can use a variety of different instruments, and obtain a relevant history to establish eligibility and appropriateness of services. Wherever you are, you know you probably accept some insurance. Don’t accept others. You may have private pay, or you may not. We want to make sure that once we scream we can get the person into services that they may need. You know. So we need to determine: where can they go? You know if they’ve got Medicaid if their private pay if they’ve got private insurance. You know where could where’s the best referral place for them, and to do that, we need to get that relevant history. Other things that affect eligibility appropriateness for certain treatment programs, some treatment programs will work with people who are on benzodiazepines, while others won’t. Some treatment programs will work with people who have co-occurring mental health disorders. There won’t. So this history is important to figure out. Does this person need a specialized program? Are they dealing with specialized issues like LGBTQ issues? Are they if they’re an adolescent? They’re going to need an adolescent program, so we need to get all of this stuff. You know when we’re doing the screening we’re, going to get a little demographic data there and we’re going to do. The screening screen for physical needs, medical conditions, and co-occurring mental health issues. So, while a screening for substance use may be five questions, a full screening is probably going to take 20 or 30 minutes. So we’re going to ask them a variety of questions. We’re, not going to get super in-depth, but we are going to get sort of an overview of how this person is doing. That way. We can look at it and say you know: maybe they’ve got medical conditions that are contributing. If we’re screening for depression, maybe they’ve got medical conditions that are contributing to their depression. If they have a substance, use disorder, you know: are their medical conditions being made worse by their substance use? And if so, what do we need to do so? We want to you, know, the screen we want to screen for co-occurring mental health issues. It does not matter if the person had depression or anxiety or bipolar before they started using or they develop depression or anxiety after they started using right now they’re. If they have depression or anxiety, it needs to be addressed, because you can’t, have somebody sober up and still feel miserable and expect to stay sober for long. Likewise, you know you can’t just treat their mental health issue and expect substance use. Just to go, oh so, if they, if you’re screening for one is really important to screen for the other substance, use will monkey with the neurotransmitters that can contribute to depression and anxiety. So you know they’ve got substance. Use we want to screen for that mental health issues. Sometimes people will self-medicate to try to numb the pain of mental health issues so again always screen for both of them because the likelihood is if one exists, the other exists at some level as well as interpret the results of the screening and assessment and integrate information to Formulate a diagnostic impression and determine the appropriate course of action, so you’re not doing a full diagnosis, but you’re going to go through and you’re going to look at the screening results and say yep. You know, technically, this person meets the criteria for substance use disorder, so we need to send them on for an assessment to see what may need to be done and what our options are to help them deal with it. If you’re screening for depression, the same things going to be true. This person meets the criteria. You know, we suspect that they may have a major depressive disorder. So let’s refer them for an assessment. So we can figure out what’s causing the depression and what options we have for helping the person deal with it. We want to develop a written integrated summary to support our diagnostic impressions and you’re going to do more of that with assessment, but in the screening, you know the Assessors going to want to know. Why did you send this person, you’re going to present a summary of the information that you gathered. That told you that this person may need to be assessed for substance, abuse, or mental health issues. You know it. Doesn’t have to be a dissertation, it can be a paragraph, but you do want to kind of put it all together in a nice little package. So the Assessor doesn’t have to go back and read through everything and try to figure out what you saw establish, rapport and an effective working alliance in which the client feels heard and understood you know to be respectful, and make eye contact and smile. You know don’t go directly to your paperwork and make them feel like a number, be punctual that’s important non judgmental if they’re talking about their substance, use don’t act shocked like oh, my gosh. I can’t believe that you drank while you were pregnant or oh, my gosh. I can’t believe that you’re using that much of that substance, or you did that to get your drugs, no, they did what they did to survive. They did what they did to survive, and given the tools that they had then we weren’t in their shoes. You know they’re by, but the grace of God goes so we want to remember that people did what they had to do and it got them here and it helped them survive until now, and we want to be attentive if we see that the Person starts moving around in their seat a little bit. You know, ask them, you know, are you uncomfortable? Is there something I can do to make you comfortable? They may be uncomfortable about what you’re talking about. They may be, you may be running late, and you know you’ve been in the session for 30 minutes and they need to go or they may need to go to the bathroom or they may be thirsty or cold. You know if you see them starting to become a little bit fidgety and not necessarily even agitated ask them. You know it seems, like you’re, becoming a little bit anxious or something I’m wondering if there’s, something you need something I can do to help that will go a long way to helping them feel like you care about them, motivate and Engage the client and identified service needs, so if you determine that they need an assessment, you’re going to have to motivate them to go so help them see how going to an assessment could be beneficial to them. How it help could help them meet their life goals. Engagement puts the clinician in the best position to negotiate with the client about what to do and how to do it. So assessment is usually done at whatever treatment center that you’re, hoping the person is going to be enrolled in. So we want to talk with them during the screening about what is it. What type of Center do you want to go to? Is there a place that you have in mind? Are there particular characteristics of treatment that you’re, hoping to experience, or likewise not experiencing some people, who don’t want to be in a hospital-type environment or whatever so start talking with them about what their options are and negotiate with them. You know if you think they need an assessment and you’re likely going to need to go to residential. You know you might want to start moving them toward the four or five options that offer that service and encourage them to go, and if they don’t think they have a problem, they may not be willing to go yet if they think they’ve Got a problem make sure that the handoff goes well to that agency. If it’s not within your same agency, make sure that that referral goes really well and that they are received equally warmly by the Assessor at that agency. Help them feel comfortable going to do this. If you give them a referral and just say here, go to this place and they’ll take care of you. The person may be like I don’t know where it is. I don’t know who this person is if you hand them this and say you know, go down to this place and do you know how to get there? So let me draw you a map and that help them know how to get there and then you’re going to meet with Jane at this facility and she’s. Going to do your assessment. I’ve worked with Jane for years. She’s, really awesome. You know she’ll take her time listening to what you have to say and what your want. Is she not going to force you into anything you don’t want? That goes a whole further to motivating the client to go because they’re not apprehensive about what in the world am i walking into engaged clients are more likely to participate, willingly, be treated, be compliant, and complete treatment. Now, engagement doesn’t stop when they leave the screening that’s just the beginning, but you are the face of the mental health system so to speak because you’re the first person that they interface with so you kind of set the tone for Their experience most of the time create a welcoming environment that’s pleasant and sensitive to age. If you’re working with kids, don’t have a sterile environment with only big people chairs, you know, have little people chairs and have you know books that are appropriate if it’s, have it be sensitive to gender? You know men, aren’t 39, t going to be wanting to sit in an office where everything is pink and frilly and whatever likewise adults, aren’t going to want to sit in a playroom to do counseling. So you know make sure you’ve got age. Appropriate stuff in the room that you’re working with, makes it sensitive to disobeying ability. If people have hearing disabilities, you know make sure that you can talk loudly enough, that they can hear you make sure you minimize extraneous noise that may keep them from hearing you make sure the area is compliant with the Americans with Disabilities Act. So people who are physically disabled can get through doorways and things like that. The physical environment should be sensitive to sexual orientation, so have little clues around that you are accepting of the LGBTQ lifestyle, so a rainbow flag on your desk or something doesn’t have to be huge, you know just little things in the environment that say hey. You know I’m cool with whoever you are cuz. You’re an awesome person same thing with religion. You know try to make sure the assessment environment is friendly and not necessarily oppressively religious. You know, if you have you know across here or prayer there or something you know that’s, fine, that’s, your expression of who you are, but we want to make sure that people who are of a different religion or who are atheist. Don’t feel oppressed in that environment. Likewise, people who’ve been traumatized potentially through their church in some way or another may be off-putting if they see that so be cognizant of the things that seem benign to you and what they may mean to the people who are coming in for Screenings and make sure your environment is sensitive to socioeconomic status, and what I mean by that is, you know, have a pleasant environment for everybody, but people who are from a higher socioeconomic status, for example, are probably going to affect. Expect a plusher environment and a much different experience more concierge-type services than somebody who is of a middle class or lower socioeconomic status. Now, does that mean you can just throw folding chairs out for other people? No, we want to make sure everybody is comfortable and they feel kind of like it,’s their living room. You know we don’t want them to feel like it,’s, a stair-scary environment, but you do need to pay attention to it. What is this person, or what are the people in my community expecting when they come in factors impacting engagement, can include stigma about the diagnosis or even about help seeking not everybody is cool with counseling some cultures say you know, counseling disgraces the family. Some of you know older people like my grandmother,’s, age back then, and in the 1940s and 50s you didn’t tell other people your stuff, so be conscious of the fact that just being there may be overwhelming for people’s, expectations about The effectiveness of treatment can impact their engagement if they’ve been in treatment before or they’ve known. Somebody who’s been in treatment before and it just never seems to work. Then they may be there because they have to be for some reason, but they don’t expect you to be able to help them, so their engagement going to be low. One of the things you can do with those people is to make sure you have some tools in your toolbox that are brief interventions that can help them start feeling better. Today, you know tomorrow, something like that. So talk with them, sleep is one of the first and easiest things to start addressing. You know talk with them about their sleep hygiene patterns. You know, because people’s, inability to relax, can contribute to depression and anxiety and a whole bunch of other stuff, so learn about sleep hygiene and how to create a good sleep routine and encourage them to start doing that or encourage them to make a List of the people and things that are important to them, so they can figure out where they’re going from here, and they can figure out why they’re doing all this so find a couple of tools that you can give people, so they can Focus on the fact that yeah, this might help me and it might help me move towards my goals and, oh by the way I’m, starting to figure out what my goals are. People may have expectations about their role or power in the treatment process, so we want to make sure that clients understand that they are in charge. They are in charge of their treatment, make them. You know unless I have to do an involuntary commitment, but that’s something a therapist or is going to do or psychiatrist, but 99 99 of the time you want to work with the client and they’re going to be the ones to tell you what 39, s worked in the past. What hasn’t worked in the past? What’s working right now even a little bit, and you’re going to talk about ways to enhance that. You know we’re not going to force them to do things that they don’t want to do, and they may have certain expectations about the treatment itself. So we want to dispel any myths about what treatment is like. We want to help them know what our facility or the facility we’re, referring to can provide in terms of treatment, and we also want to just help them understand what to expect so. They’re not apprehensive, and you’re likable nests. I hate to say it, but you are likable enough sand. They’re likable near in pact engagement. If somebody comes into your office and you’re doing a screening and they are just, they have no social skills, they’re not attentive. They’re not attractive, they’re, not happy, they’re just mean and cantankerous it’s, going to be hard to engage them and it’s going to take an extra effort on your part to try to hear where they’re. Coming from and hearing what’s important to them and forming a bond, the client’s social skills will impact engagement. If they don’t have great social skills. You know you got to work with it and you know if they’re. I had one client that bless his heart. He was in college and he would still pick his nose and eat it, and you know I had a hard time focusing when he was doing that. So you know I got to the point where he would do it and as soon as he pick his nose, I pick up a tissue and hand it to him and go here. You go looks like you need that, but those are things that you can run into when you are working with clients and you need to keep that from causing a barrier in your ability to engage with them if they’re, not attentive. Ask them why you know or try to look for reasons why they’re, not attentive. You know you seem to be kind of distracted. Is there something I can do to make you more comfortable? And you know it’s just human nature that we tend to be more engaged with attractive people. Not everybody’s attractive.
So you know focus on what the person has to say and what their heart has to say to engage, and you know likewise, you may not be written off the pages of Vogue either, but try to present yourself well, try to you know, dress appropriately Don’t show up all disheveled and smelly clothes like looking like you haven’t bathed in a week that that’s not helpful so make sure that you’re presenting your best face and you’re dealing with whatever face the client brings And still trying to build that engagement remember the way a client presents. This tells us a lot about what’s contributing to their presenting issues: poor social skills, and ADHD pain. You know there are a variety of things that can contribute to depression, anxiety, and substance use. So try to look at it from that way, even if it’s not your ideal client understand what’s causing this person to be negative and just argumentative and frustrating try to get under there and figure it out. Why is this person so unhappy? What’s motivating is that first impressions impact engagement, so your professional presentation is promptly courteous and smooth handling paperwork. If you walk in there with 15 sheets of paper – and you’re shuffling them around and it seems like you, don’t know what you’re doing. You’re like just a second. I know I had that form around here somewhere, they’re not going to feel very confident in anything. You have to say so and put on a good first impression. Put it together and make sure your paperwork is put together ahead of time. If you have an electronic medical record, make sure you know how to use it because it’s disturbing to people, even though it happens when you’re, using an electronic medical health record to do a screening and you get stuck and you’ve got To call somebody else in to help you figure out how to get on the next screen make sure the environment is calm, clean and comfortable, not too formal or informal like we talked about it, avoids interruptions and provides the appropriate level of privacy. You don’t want clients sitting in the waiting room being able to hear other clients that are in the therapy, rooms or screening rooms. If you’re doing screenings, you may not even be in an office, you may be out at a festival or something so make sure that you’ve got. You know little pull-around screens or something, if appropriate, to give people privacy other people, shouldn’t be hearing their responses to what you are asking them, even if it’s, you know like I said, even if it’s at a Workplace festival or something other people should not hear their answers. So how can you give them privacy if there’s, no way to do that where they can have auditory privacy put as much as possible on check sheets and forms that they can fill out? And then you can point to something and go so help me understand your answer to this right here. Most of the time you want to try to do a screening in a private room. In the initial interview you’re, developing trust and rapport so be empathetic. They’re nervous, probably or they don’t want to be there or maybe they do want to be there and they’re, just hoping that you can help paraphrase that to them whatever vibe you’re getting off of them, paraphrase that and work With it convey warmth and respect and explores the clients, strengths, and skills, you know you’ve been dealing with this depression or this addiction for a long time. I’m wondering how you’ve survived until now. What has helped you deal with it? And keep on keeping on facilitating the clients, understanding the rationale, purpose, and procedures of the screening and assessment exploring the clients, problems, and expectations regarding treatment and recovery, and determining whether a further assessment is needed. That’s your screening. So the definition of screening is the process by which the counselor, client, and significant others, when possible, review the current situation, symptoms, and collateral information to determine the probability of a problem. So we’re going to sit down and we’re going to go okay. What brings you here today? What makes you think you got a problem, you know, and then we’re going to start asking questions or using instruments to try to determine whether we think that there’s a probability that that problem exists screaming is used by all types of Human Service Personnel to determine eligibility and appropriateness of services and needed referrals, so it may be used by a physician by a nurse by a counselor by a caseworker to determine how can we best help this person achieve their goals and their maximum quality of life? It’s not unusual for caseworkers at the Department of Children and Families. If people are coming in to get their food stamps or EBT that month, or they’re enrolling in the process to do a screening to determine how can we best help this person? You know be able to start earning more money, you know, maybe they just need a better job, or maybe they’re not able to maintain employment because their depression is so oppressive. So you can see where screening may be used in a lot of different systems and situations to help people figure out how to help their customers. Screening determines the immediacy of the need. You know you could be doing a screening with somebody who’s like on the fence, or they don’t think they’ve got a problem and it you know there or their problem is minor, so the immediacy may not be great or you could Be screening somebody who is you know heavily intoxicated was just kicked out of his house is facing three DUIs. You know they have a much more immediate need for their safety as well as, hopefully, they’re. More motivated screening needs to be a trance process. We don’t want to sit there with a clipboard and be asking questions and scribbling things down and going uh huh. Well, I think you need to go for an assessment that’s not transparent. The clients like, where did you come up with that I usually use screening instruments, and I talk with people when I’m writing things down. I tell them at the end. If you want to see anything I wrote down, I would encourage you to know I don’t write well, and I’ve got poor penmanship, but I encourage you to read what I wrote and we’re going to talk about these instruments after you Take them so you know you know why were we asking these particular questions? What does it mean to me as a therapist doing your screening, so they understand how you’re arriving at your conclusions? Screening does require informed consent. You know it. Doesn’t have to be a big thing, but it does have to happen before you start screening somebody you need to go. You know I’d like to screen you for depression or anxiety, or this is a wellness screening that your agency is offered, but have them ideally have them sign a sheet acknowledging that they know that they’re being screened for whatever and screening identifies Early warning signs and helps provide early intervention, services and resources, so you know think about high blood pressure or diabetes or any of those physical things doctor screens for that regularly, and if they see that there might be a problem creeping in, they can do something right. Then, to keep it from becoming a full-blown problem. Mental health screening is the same. We notice people are under a lot of stress. We know that that’s probably going to wear them out after a while, and it might lead to depression. So we can start helping them, develop stress management skills, for example. They may not need to go to treatment, maybe they need to go to psychoeducation and learn about stress management, or maybe you’ve got a book. You can let them read or something. But screening is a method of determining what the person needs. Screening is the first opportunity to engage the client in the therapeutic relationship and treatment process, sometimes based on observations or other circumstances. People may be referred directly for assessment, for example, if people come into the detoxification unit we kind of bypass screening. We know there’s a problem and jump straight into assessment, so screening doesn’t always happen, but a lot of times. It does because of that referral source – you know if you’re an Assessor that person came from somewhere. You know their lawyer could have screened them. Their doctor could have screened them whatever, but somebody along the way, probably screen them to determine yeah. You probably need to go over to this facility and talk to an Assessor of the clients. Internal motivation is the primary reason for engaging in treatment. So if they’re there because their wife told them they had to be or their boss or the courts that got them there, but to get them actually engaged in treatment and not just going through the motions they have to have internal motivation. There has to be something in it for them, and that’s, what we want to work on developing throughout the whole process, help them see how this benefits them, what’s in it for them, how can it help them accomplish and get closer to their goals for their life, internal motivation may be fleeting, so rapid engagement is vital. If you see a spark of interest or a spark of willingness, we kind of need to pounce on that spark and go alright. It seems like you know you want to get on with this because you’re sick and tired of being sick and tired. So let’s get you enrolled. Now, if you have to make an appointment for an assessment that’s six weeks out, you may lose the person. You know that engagement doesn’t last for long. The engagement lasts while they’re in your office, and then you know you got to have somebody else, pick it up and keep that momentum going. Screening should be brief. You know twenty-thirty minutes you don’t want to have somebody in there for three hours, that’s the assessment conducted in a variety of settings by a range of professionals on persons deemed to be at risk. Some things we do Universal screenings for like domestic violence, other things you may do selected screenings for – and it also depends on your setting and all that kind of thing. But the take-home point is that screenings are conducted in a variety of settings, whether it be a Health Fair at an employer,’s, a doctor,’s office, sometimes churches will even set up wellness days and do screenings screening represents the first part of a Collaboration among the multidisciplinary team because the screener is going to say, okay, I think I’ve identified that this person probably has an issue with this and needs to be referred to assessment over here, but they also need help with housing and food and affording their Prescriptions, so the screener will kind of link them to other team members in the multidisciplinary team. Screening needs to be sensitive to racial, cultural, socio, economic, and gender-related concerns, so make sure that you’re, culturally responsive and it needs to be developed from information gathered from multiple sources when possible. When you’re doing a screening a lot of times, the only person you’ve got to do. The screening is the person sitting right in front of you, but if you’ve got other information. When I do screenings on people in the criminal justice system, I want to see their criminal records. You know that gives me some objective. Information on you know how many times have they been caught? Dui, whether or not they’ve been convicted? How many times have they been caught DUI, that gives me a little bit more information than just what that person is telling me if they’ve been involved with the Department of Children and Families. I want them to bring their case report, especially if they’ve got an open case going on. Screening assesses signs and symptoms of intoxication and withdrawal. Three key elements: we want to verify that the behavior deviates from the norm and rule out all non-drug related causes. So if somebody is having difficulty focusing or they’re agitated, we want to rule out ADHD and schizophrenia and some other things that might cause that, to rule in, if you will stimulant abuse, for example, you want to verify that there. This is not how they normally behave. You know some people are agitated and a little bit more bouncy or fidgety or whatever you want to say most of the time. If that’s how they are, then you know that’s how they are and it’s not a drug, wants to rule out the drug-related causes, including physical causes. You know if they’re in chronic pain if you know etc. There are a lot of reasons somebody could be excessively sleepy have difficulty concentrating be overly agitated. There are a lot of things that use diagnostic procedures to determine the types of drugs being used. So in screening, we’re going to ask them what they’ve been using. But ideally, you can also do an on-site drug screening. You know having a pee in a cup and the on-site. Screenings are not super reliable, but it gives you something to look at. You know most cases, it’s anywhere between 60 and 70 percent reliability, which is why, if it comes up positive and the person says, I didn’t use that it needs to be sent off to a lab for mass spectrometry. To determine what happened, because you can get false positives and you can get false negatives, they may have used something and it doesn’t show up on the test. So you don’t want to just trust the on sites as being a hundred percent, but it is a good tool to identify whether the person is telling you the truth about how much or what their current, whether they’re currently using or not assess Clients, mental health and trauma history. You’re not going to get deep into the weeds here, just ask them if they have a history of depression, anxiety, or abuse of any sort and move on to their safety or environmental needs. Do they have a safe place to sleep? You know if they have an address, you know, do they feel safe in their home? Do they eat well, how’s their nutrition? Do they have any physical health needs that are not getting met? Do they have any other wraparound needs? If they’ve got kids, do they have access to childcare? Are they having problems with transportation? Are they able to afford the medications that they’re already prescribed, etc? So we want to ask them about some basic things like that, and then we’re going to assess the danger to themselves and others. Are they talking about harming themselves or someone else? And we also want to ask if they’re thinking about hurting themselves or someone else. Screening methods include interviewing the clients and significant others using screening instruments and lab tests like urinalysis that we talked about signs of substance, use disorders or mental health issues. We want to look for number one, the circumstances of contact. If the person was referred by the court, then that’s a pretty good sign that there may be a substance use disorder going on if they’re referred because of a DUI. For example, if they’re referred because of a fight they got into, but they weren’t using at the time their blood alcohol was zero. We want to look maybe for mental health issues and things like intermittent explosive disorder. You want to look at the clients, demeanor, and behavior. Are they acting like they’re under the influence when they come in for the screening? Are they showing signs of acute intoxication or withdrawal? Are there any physical signs of drug use or self-injury? Needle injection marks, if they have a get frequent bloody noses, you know if they get bloody noses, while they’re in your office or if they have signs that they’ve been picking. Those can be all physical signs of drug use. Emaciation and malnutrition are also signed some drugs will cause the pupils to be dilated. Other drugs will cause the pupils to be pinpointed. So you want to know what the signs of different drugs are for drugs of intoxication and different signs that people have been using, especially injection, but, like I said, sometimes, drugs will cause people to pick or itch, and that will show indicate to you that there might Be an underlying issue and information spontaneously offered by the client or significant others can give you information about whether there’s a substance, use or mental health issue, and sometimes the significant other. Let me just kind of back up: there may be the significance the spouse brought the person in and when you go out to meet them you, the person, the person being interviewed. Doesn’t want their spouse in there. They want. They want to go back by themselves, okay, that’s cool, you go out and meet the person and then, if you can, with permission, bring the spouse back after the screening to give them both the results, and at that point the significant other the spouse may Spontaneously say: oh well, why didn’t you tell them about? You know the DUI you had three years ago or whatever. So sometimes spouses will just kind of blurt things out because they suspect that the significant other didn’t already say it during the interview. So if you can get that person in a private place where they have an opportunity to say something wonderful but remember you know you do have to have the client’s permission. Screening instruments can be developed by the agency or use standardized instruments. The cage is a common one and you ask a person: have they tried to cut down unsuccessfully, do they feel annoyed when people talk to them about their substance use, do they feel guilty about the substances about using their substances and do they sometimes have to Use first thing: in the morning to kind of wake up we call it an eye opener if they say yes to one or more of those, there’s a chance that they may have a problem. The gain is another tool that you can use, as is the Michigan alcohol screening test or the Sasi. So all of those are standardized instruments, and some of them cost money. Others, like Kay, don’t, so it may depend on your agency and what kind of budget you’ve got. What instruments you’re using any instruments you do use must detail what action should be taken based on received scores. So if a person takes the cage – and they say yes to one but not any of the others, does that mean they should be sent for a referral if they say yes to two, when at what point should they be sent for a full assessment? You want to screen when screening for mental health you want to screen for acute symptoms such as hallucinations, delusions or depression or anxiety, suicidal thoughts and behaviors, and other mood and thought disturbances. So you’re going to ask them about time, place, purpose, and person. Do you know what time it is? Do you know where you are? Do you know why you’re here and do you know who I am you’re going to ask them about short and long-term memory if they can tell you about something from their childhood great, but you’re also going to ask them If they can tell you about what they had for lunch, another thing you want to assess or another way to assess short term memory is to tell them. I’m going to tell you four words and I want I’m going to. Ask you in a few minutes to recall those four words for me and then tell them four words: make them easy words like dog cat, bird, and fish. You know not something hard to remember and then in five or ten minutes. Ask them what were the four words I told you and see if they can remember you’re going to ask them about prior involvement in mental health treatment. What worked and what didn’t if they have been in treatment? What prescription medications do they use, and this includes all prescriptions because physical health prescriptions can have mental health side effects? Ask them about recent traumas again, don’t get into it, but ask them if they’ve been victimized or experienced any sort of abuse and a family history of mental illness. If they have a family history of mental illness, the chances of them developing mental illness are a little bit greater. When screening for mental health, you’re going to use the modified mini screen, the Mental Status exam, the mini Mental Status exam. The brief symptom inventory, a brief psychiatric rating scale, or the symptom checklist 9 t r. So those are the ones that you’re, typically going to use a lot of times. They’re already in your electronic medical record, so you’re not going to have to figure out what to use in terms of you know, knowing what the instruments are for certification and testing purposes. These are the six that you want to be aware of. So you can google each one of them and find out more about what each screening test can provide. Your screening is the initial contact to decide if a person may need a more in-depth assessment. Screening is brief but requires the person to be engaged in the process to get an accurate result. How well the person is engaged in the screening process is a direct predictor of whether he or she will continue in the process. 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Which means the brain’s
ability to adjust and adapt as well as learning and memory so these are good receptors I like
them glutamate binds with these receptors and high levels of glutamate are secreted during high
levels of stress glutamate remember is what GABA is made from but high levels of glutamate
it’s an excitatory neural net in the brain and overexposure of neurons to this glutamate can be
excited toxic and may contribute to the loss of neurons in the hippocampus of patients with PTSD
so we’re actually seeing brain volume decrease as a result of exposure to certain chemicals elevated
gluten core glucocorticoid and yeah glucocorticoids increases the sensitivity of these receptors so
you’ve got a bunch of glutamate being dumped and you’ve got a bunch of glucocorticoid you’ve got
cortisol in there making these receptors more sensitive so it’s got they’re more sensitive and
they’ve got more coming in which makes it a whole lot easier to become toxic and start causing
neuronal degradation what does that mean why do we care it may take clients with PTSD more time to
master new skills because of emotional reactivity but also because some of their synaptic plasticity
may be damaged so it may take them a little bit longer to actually acquire and integrate these
new skills it’s not saying they’re stupid they can remember it just fine however when they’re
an emotionally charged state and helping their brain learn that okay this isn’t a threat that’s one
of those sort of subconscious things that has to happen that can take longer if the brain becomes
excited toxic during stress inhibited learning and memory then it becomes excited toxic during
stress which inhibits learning and memory so it’s under stress things are excited toxic neurons
are starting to disappear so I’m wondering and I’m just hypothesizing here I don’t know the
answers obviously or I wouldn’t be practicing it but what happens during the exposure therapies
because that’s exactly what we’re doing is we are flooding the brain with all of these chemicals
and creating basically an excitotoxin now they found some evidence that exposure therapies can
be helpful according to the DOJ website but or not the DOJ I can’t even think of it right
now the VA website but you know I’m wondering long-term what the impact is endogenous opioids
natural painkillers act upon the same receptors activated by exogenous opioids like morphine and
heroin exerts an inhibitory influence on the HPA axis well we know that people take opiates
and it has depressant effects on them it slows them down and calms them down alterations in our
natural opioids may be involved in certain PTSD symptoms such as numbing stress-induced analgesia
and dissociation again think of any clients you’ve had who have been abused or even taken and not like
the side effects of opiates are what opiates do to some people make them feel more relaxed stress
induced and analgesia they don’t have as much physical pain sometimes they just it’s there
I don’t care pill another interesting factor is now truck zone which is used to oppose opiate
appears to be effective in treating symptoms of dissociation flashbacks in traumatized persons so
basically, they’re saying if we undo the endogenous opioids we can treat these symptoms it highlights
the risk of opiate abuse for persons with PTSD though because if endogenous opioids produce
some of these numbing symptoms and dissociative symptoms so they can get away from the pain and
the flashbacks then if they add to that you know oral opioids it could prove to be a very tempting
cocktail we do want to as clinicians figure out how we can assist them with their physical and
emotional distress tolerance so they don’t feel the need to numb and escape and you know I
can’t imagine what some people have seen have gone through and I’m not trying to take that away
from them, I’m trying to help them figure out how they can stay present and learn to integrate it
changes question marks in brain structure and one of the questions that’s come up in the research is
because there aren’t any longitudinal studies that looked at it was the hippocampal volume as low to
begin with which created a predisposition for PTSD or did PTSD create the smaller hippocampal volume
interesting hippocampus is implicated in the control of stress responses memory and contextual
aspects of fear conditioning so it helps you to find these triggers in the environment that
help you become aware with your senses about when there might be a trauma prolonged exposure
to stress and high levels of glucocorticoids damage the hippocampus we’ve talked about that
hippocampal volume reduction in PTSD may reflect the accumulated toxic effects of repeated exposure
to increased cortisol levels what I called earlier the flatter the Furious having you know your body
holding on to cortisol for this extreme stress and then when it perceives stress it’s either
nothing or it’s extreme there are no kind sort of mild stressors out there that decrease hippocampal
volumes might also be a pre-existing vulnerability factor for developing PTSD the amygdala yet
another brain structure is the Olympic structure involved in the emotional process and it’s
critical for the acquisition of fear responses functional imaging of studies has revealed hyper
responsiveness and PTSD during the presentation of stressful script cues or trauma reminders but
also patients show increased amygdala responses to general emotional stimuli that are not trauma
associated such as emotional faces so they show an increased responsivity to things they see on the
TV that aren’t trauma-related to people crying to people showing anger’s going to have a
stronger emotional amygdala response than people without PTSD so clients with PTSD may be more
emotionally responsive across the board leading to more emotional dysregulation again an area that
we can help provide them with tools for early adverse experiences including prenatal stress and stress
throughout childhood has profound and long-lasting effects on the development of neurobiological
symptoms the brain is developing and if is exposed to a lot of stress and some of these excited toxic
situations how does that differ in the amount of damage caused versus a brain that’s already kind
of pretty much-formed programming may change for subsequent stress reactivity and vulnerability
to develop PTSD so if these happen during childhood or at any time the brain can
basically reprogram and go that it’s a really dangerous place out there so I need to hold
on to cortisol and I need to hold on to these stress hormones because every time I turn around
it seems like there’s a threat so I am going to be hyper-vigilant and respond in an exaggerated way
to protect you from the outside world adult women with childhood trauma histories have been shown
to exhibit sensitization of both neuroendocrine and Audino stress responses so basically they’re
showing hypo cortisol ISM a variety of changes take place in the brains and nervous systems of
people with PTSD and we talked about a lot of those the key take-home point is stress can
actually get toxic in the brain and cause physical changes not just thought changes in the brain
preexisting issues causing hypo cortisol ism where the brain has already downregulated whether it’s
due to chronic illness or chronic psychological stress increases the likelihood of the development
of PTSD this points to the importance of prevention and early intervention of adverse
childhood experiences we really need to get in there and help these people develop distress
tolerance skills understanding of vulnerabilities so they’re not going from flat to furious all
the time and so that they can understand why their body kind of responds and why they respond
differently than others and you know as we talk about this and of course I’m regularly bringing up
DBT buzzwords if you will think about your clients if you’ve worked with any who’ve had borderline
personality disorder what kind of history do they have did they have just a great childhood no we
know that people with BPD generally had pretty chaotic childhoods so this research is also
kind of underscoring why they may react and act the way they do that flat to furious people with
hypo cortical ism may or may not have PTSD so we don’t want to say well you’re fine if you don’t
have PTSD symptoms we do know that every trauma potentially can cause the body to down-regulate
and I kind of look at it as conserving a little bit more of the energy that it needs each time so
instead of conserving 60% now it’s conserving 65 and 66 each time it encounters a stressor in order
to prepare for potential ongoing threats in the environment hypercortisolism sets the stage for
the flattened the furious leading to toxic levels of glutamate upon exposure to stressors which
can cause the theorized reduction in hippocampal volume and persistent negative brain changes now I
always say the brain can you know rebalance itself and all well that’s part of the plasticity that is
the really cool thing about our brain however as far as regenerating those neurons I haven’t found
any evidence in the research that we found a way to help people regenerate once we’ve already those
neurons are gone they’ve been killed off the brain has to find a workaround so it does take time
but I do believe people can minimize some of the impact of the trauma they may have experienced
people with PTSD are more reactive to emotional stimuli even stimuli unrelated to trauma again
think about some of your clients especially if you work in a residential situation where you’re
around on 24/7, you know for 30 or 60 days, and you may see some clients that seem to get upset
over everything and you’re like ah such a drama queen or such a drama king and to yourself not
to anybody else but when you think about it from this perspective it gives you a different
perspective and you might say oh maybe their body responds differently they’ve got more emotional
dysregulation because of prior trauma they’re not trying to overreact this is their body’s response
because it’s perceived threat so many times it gives me a different approach to working
with that client hypercortisolism results when the brain perceives that continued effort is futile
feelings of fatigue set in akin to reduced stress tolerance so think about you know when you’ve had
a really long stressful period you know weeks or months maybe you’re dealing with an ailing family
member or something it’s just a lot of stress and you start getting really tired and when you’re
really tired and you’re worn down and somebody gives you one more thing it’s that one more thing
normally wouldn’t bother you but right now you just can’t take it so we can see how there’s a
reduced stress tolerance when somebody’s already at this stage reducing fatigue in our clients can
be accomplished in part with psychological factors including motivation or knowledge of other people
who are dealing with similar things support groups feedback about their and making sure they have
frequent successes not once a week but I want to have them keep a journal every day of something
good that happened or something positive that may indicate they’re moving forward in their
treatment goals and knowledge of an endpoint.
Where are we going with this when is the treatment
going to end I don’t want most clients don’t want to be with us forever no matter how lovable
we are do you want to feel better and be done with us so having to help them see that there
is an endpoint we’re going to accomplish this goal this month and then we can reassess 46% of
people in the US are exposed to adverse childhood experiences so like I said this is a huge area
for early intervention where we can prevent people from developing PTSD later in life how awesome
would that be instruction and skills to handle emotional dysregulation including mindfulness
vulnerability prevention and awareness emotion regulation distress tolerance and problem-solving
could be wonderful additions to health curriculums anything any skills groups you do with children
or adolescents or even adults I mean just because they’re adults doesn’t mean that they’re safe
from PTSD or that they’ve crossed any threshold where they’re too old to learn we’re never too
old to learn of those exposed to trauma education about and normalization of their heightened
emotional reactivity and susceptibility to PTSD in the future may be helpful in increasing their
motivation for their current treatment protocol whatever it is but it also just normalizes things
so they don’t feel like they’re overreacting or they don’t feel guilty for being so tired
or whatever they’re experiencing right now are there any questions I know I went through
a lot of really complicated stuff but I thought it was really interesting not only the way
our brain reacts in order to protect us but how cross-cutting a lot of this stuff
was it not just PTSD we’re talking about necessarily but a lot of this information
applies to our clients with chronic fatigue burnout and chronic stress and we can
see that those people also are at risk at higher risk of PTSD should they be exposed
to trauma and none of us is immune I mean there are tornadoes there are hurricanes
there are you know things that happen that really stink so the more we can help clients
be aware of things develop skills and tools to prevent as much harm as possible I
think the more effective we are as clinicians depending on the client and I can do some
more research on the VA website because they’re really into medications for PTSD I
know ketamine which is a horse tranquilizer has been shown to be effective in people
with PTSD and there have been some others that have kind of given me pause ketamine
is a hypnotic you know most of the drugs they’re trying out right now are really in my
opinion they’re powerful drugs but a lot of them all of them that I know of have
pretty high addictive potentials too so they make me nervous but you know when you’re
weighing the when you’re going from a harm reduction model that’s not necessarily not
necessarily such the be-all-end-all I guess that’s interesting that you use ketamine in the ER it’s definitely powerful effective stuff and like I said earlier some of the
stuff that some of my clients and some people have seen done experienced I couldn’t even
imagine and you know sometimes for them to actually survive we may need to look at some
of these more intense more powerful drugs PTSD and veteran trauma is not are not my focus
right now and yes marijuana is being experimented with or looked at used whatever however you want
to look at it for PTSD treatment with veterans there’s pretty much not a drug out there they
haven’t tried to throw at it to see well what will this do I believe they were even using
LSD experimentally for a little while too you the VA I mean if you’re interested in this
topic let me see if I could pull that down into here, we go to the National Center
for PTSD US Department of Veterans Affairs has a lot of information if you go for
professionals, it has a ton more information if you can get on get some of your SI CEUs on
demand they do have some free CEUs for PTSD here I’ve never taken any of them but what
I’ve looked at when I’ve looked at like the PowerPoints the presentations and stuff I’m
sure they’re good so if you’re you do focus a lot on PTSD and you can get on-demand CEUs
then this might be a place to get some good free ones aside from DBT are there any other
evidence-based practices for therapy that you’ve seen work best in combination with the
medications cognitive processing therapy when you’re working specifically with veterans
and there is a free course on that too and this one I have gone through
and it’s really awesome CPT dot must seed and here I’ll just put it
into that education and this is a free course oops and here’s the other one ah golly everyone and
embryo does have a lot of research effectiveness with people with PTSD too so yes I would
definitely encourage people to explore all options alrighty everybody I really
appreciate you coming today and sticking with me through this topic and I will see
you on Thursday if you have any questions please feel free to email me or you can
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Is gonna pick up if you are in a household where you know you’re in college and
you’ve got four other roommates and all of your your other roommates tend to be
negative and naysayers you’re either probably going to move or you may that
might start wearing off on you a little bit likewise if they are you know all
kinds of go-getters that can wear off on you too so you know there’s going to be
an impact risk factor is peer and family reinforcement of negative or unhealthy
norms and expectations so if your family says you know people suck they’re
always going to take advantage of you what are you going to take away from
that and is that going to contribute to you probably having difficulties with
trusting and maybe developing depression possibly so we want to look at what kind
of messages is the peer group or family sending to the individual that may
contribute to the development of mood or anxiety disorders early sexual activity
among peers could communicate that well this is the norm so everybody’s doing it
ties to deviant peers and gang involvement you know especially at that
particular group there’s a lot of pressure to conform or there’s a
negative consequences family members who don’t spend much time together and this
could be because parents work a lot this could be because everybody’s you know
involved in all kinds of other stuff but they found that
when families are disengaged the parents tend to miss out on subtle cues when
families are disengaged even if they don’t have children in the mix that
there tends to be a weakening of those bonds supportive bonds so people
are at higher risk for development of depression and anxiety because they
don’t have that you know everybody’s behind me sort of feeling parents who
have trouble keeping track of youth can indicate that the youth may be at risk
for developing substance or more mood disorders lack of clear rules and
consequences you think about even just being at work when there’s a lack of
clear rules and consequences you don’t exactly know what you’re supposed to do
I know for me that creates doodles of anxiety I like manuals and to date
pretty much every job I’ve ever taken I’ve walked in and there hasn’t been a
manual and I’ve been like okay there must be a manual written and that’s been
my first thing now I’m kind of on the structured side so I don’t expect
everybody is that way but most of us tend to experience a little bit of
anxiety about failure about acceptance if we don’t know what’s expected so it’s
important whether it’s a family or a job situation to make sure there’s clear
rules and consequences you know what’s expected and what’s going to happen if
you mess up or if you don’t meet this expectation there also needs to be
consistent expectations and limits you know when people especially children but
a lot of us tested our limits when we were kids and even as adults you know I
know you know going back to working in organizations I would have staff who
would test limits and see how long they could go without turning in a progress
note before I’d be knocking on their door going paperwork it’s natural for
people to kind of test limits especially with stuff they don’t want to do stuff
that’s not rewarding family conflict and abuse can cause a high risk of depression
and anxiety whether adults or children I mean if there’s a
a lot of conflict and chaos it’s exhausting and it can cause a lot of
dysphoric emotions and loss of employment that’s kind of
self-explanatory protective factors close family relationships so as
clinicians we can encourage people to identify who they consider their family
it may not be their blood relatives or their family who are there for them
who can they call it 2:00 in the morning and how can they nurture those
relationships encourage people to develop relationships with peers that
are involved in pro-social activities like hiking or volunteering in the
community consistency of parenting is important in terms of producing children
who are who are stronger healthier more resilient encouraging education and
parents who are actively involved can help prevent future depression because
they’re creating children who can join the workforce and have that
individual capital to prevent depression and anxiety and cope with stress
positively and this is a family protective factor and a peer for
protective factor why because we learn from observation so if our peers cope
with stress positively by prayer or exercise or whatever it is they do and
our family has other positive ways of coping with stress and we’re going to
have a greater venue of stuff to choose from supportive relationships with
caring for adults beyond the immediate family is encouraged so we want
children to grow up being able to interact with teachers coaches with
you know Scout leaders whomever and start seeing that people outside of the
nuclear family are trustworthy sharing and family responsibilities including
chores and decision making and that’s true for children teenagers and even
adults you know if you’re living in the same household it
important that everybody feels like they have a say in what’s happening
and participates in the upkeep of the family environment and family
members are nurturing and support each other and this is one where I tend to
stop and I do a love languages little mini class to help people remember that
we don’t always experience nurturance in the same way so understanding one
another’s love language is really important to be able to nurture in a
way that’s meaningful to that other person peer and family interventions are
designed to identify norms goals and expectations in the family foster family
problem-solving skills so there’s not just one person always fixing it develop
structure and consistency within the family unit promote healthy
relationships and engage peers and family of choice in the recovery process
so if somebody’s already depressed we need to be able to hopefully engage
everybody that’s involved in this person’s immediate environment in
helping them move towards recovery and you know preferably not dragging them
back down so we want to engage them and make sure that people have a supportive
others school and work risk factors lack of clear expectations both academic or
performance-wise and behavioral lack of commitment or sense of belonging at
school or at work if you just kind of go and you feel like a number you punch in
punch out that may not make you feel appreciated which can contribute
to depression and you know just bad feelings high numbers of students
failing academically at school and work translates to high amounts of
turnover if you never know who’s going to get laid off it increases stress and
anxiety and parents and community members who are not actively involved
in keeping kids in school and helping make sure that the workforce workforce
is strong but we want to make sure that people have access to how
when it’s needed we want to make sure that people have access to tutoring in
school if they need it to prevent failing school they have access to
transportation to get to work now those are things those are meta concepts that
are more on the community level but it’s important that as a community member you
know we look at different things that we may be able to participate in advocacy
and say you know it’s really important to get a bus system going I live out
about 30 miles east of Nashville and we must have the
the train that goes from my city out to Nashville so people have
access to more jobs so that was important for us to get past the City
Commission protective factors school and work positive attitudes gotta find a
reason why you’re doing this you know and sometimes it’s hard to find a reason
for algebra but we need to help kids find a reason for that we need to help
adults find a reason for why they’re going to work why are they doing what
they’re doing regular attendance shows you know it is associated with higher
mood less less risk of mood or addictive disorders because you’re able to get up
and do it and interface with people and get that social support hopefully from
your colleague’s high expectations are communicated effectively in setting
and positive social development is encouraged you know whether it’s at work
or at school, there are goals there are things you’ve got to accomplish there
are performance objectives but we also want to encourage morale and positive
social bonding whatever the setting having a positive instructional climate
again whether at work or school, I know we learn things when we’re on the
job we learn things and I don’t want people to feel like they’re having
difficulty like they’re stupid I want people to feel like anything that we
teach them as a challenge and something that may be beneficial down the road
leadership and decision-making opportunities are really important again
for students or employees to prevent burnout keep morale up reduce
anxiety and increase a sense of personal empower
and connection and active involvement for everybody is fostered and the school or
organization is responsive to the student’s needs making sure that in
school in the case of school they have access to tutoring resources it’s a safe
environment for them to be in and the children that are going to that school
have enough food in their bellies you know they can’t learn if they’re
hungry all the time workplace is a little bit different but we still need
to be responsive to people’s needs in terms of you know family requirements
whether they need to if they’re going back to school
shifting schedules a little bit we need to try to work with people instead of
being completely rigid and it’s my way or the highway when possible to
promote the best mental health characteristics of settings in which
relationships are often associated with the development of mood disorders and
addictive behaviors so we want to look at the characteristics of schools that are
they safe are they positive environments are they cheering squads or are they
places where people know they’re gonna go and get thrown under the bus
same thing with workplaces you know when you walk into a place you get most of
we get a sense and you’re either like oh this is a cool place to work or oh I
can’t wait til I can get out of here you know we want to go toward the
other end and neighborhoods when you go into a neighborhood – people take care
of their environment do they or do they have trash strewn all over their lawn
all of these things communicate how people feel about their environment and
generally how they feel about themselves and whether they have the energy to take
care of stuff or they just feel completely disenfranchised and don’t
care more about community risk factors no sense of
connection to the community neighborhood disorganization rapid changes high
unemployment a lack of strong social institutions lack of monitoring of youths
activities imbalanced media portrayals of safety health and appropriate
behavior misleading advertising and alcohol or drugs readily available
a lot of stuff we do we’re not going to be able to affect on the community level
so much but we’re gonna hit them real quick we want to improve the climate
process and policies within community schools and workplaces to make it safe and
promote positive health behaviors prevention strategies are designed to
reduce social isolation reduce and address stigma increase awareness of
local recovery models you know who’s out there that has recovered and can serve
as a role model improve economic and housing opportunities so people have a
house a safe roof over their head and they can you know earn money and feel
good about themselves increasing the accuracy and improving the positivity of
media messages and increasing physical and financial ability availability of
recovery so like I said I live in a little town so it’s nice that we have
a community mental health center here so people don’t have to rely on going into
Nashville but also making sure that services are financially available
whether you have a free clinic once a month or you know make sure you’ll you
take Medicaid but there are still a lot of people who have no insurance so where do
they go the socio-ecological model identifies
how the end the individual impacts and is impacted by not only his own
characteristics but also those of family peers community and culture prevention
takes the form of preventing the problem preventing the worsening of the problem and
preventing associated fallout like I said as clinicians a lot of what we’re
going to do is target the individual providing them with resiliency skills to deal
with some of this adversity that might be around them and to help them sort
through some of those media messages and go yeah
that’s not even true you know if I drink this vodka I’m not suddenly going to
have 14 supermodels hanging on me or whatever it is that’s being communicated
so encouraging people to be informed and Wylie consumers any change in the
the system will affect other parts of this system so if it’s a
positive change is probably going to have positive changes negative has
negative changes addressing addictive and mood disorder behaviors require a
the multi-pronged approach we need to look at the individual and you know provide
provide as many skills as possible there because that’s where we’re going to have
a lot of our impact especially in prevention but we also need to
realize that this person resides within a family you know whether they live
alone which sometimes is less problematic or they live in a household
with other people, we need to make sure that where they lay their heads at night
where they spend their non-working hours feel safe and is conducive to recovery
where they work or go to school also needs to feel safe and be conducive to
recovery and that’s part of the community so we need to kind of look at
these areas and if they aren’t safe or they don’t feel safe or aren’t conducive
to recovery, we need to help people how to figure out how they can fix that or
address it like I said they may not be able to move so what can you do to set
some boundaries to create as much safety as you can how can you do this and there
are a lot of different techniques that I’m sure you already have that you used
to help people but it’s important again not to just focus on the individual
because they don’t live in a bubble we need to look at everything right and are
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If it was your best friend’s experience your best friend came to you and said I
just got into such-and-such college would you say awesome or would you say
anybody can get in there how would that go ask them what is scary about
accepting these positive things that you might have had an
accomplishment for some people it means that it might mean other people expect
more of them for other people they just don’t know how to accept the positive
They don’t know how to accept compliments they don’t know how to be
the center of attention and they don’t like it and then we want to look at why
that is sometimes we disqualify the positive because it fails to meet
someone else’s standards so as people might that be true here you know I know
When I was growing up and going through college and going through school and
everything got my doctorate but I will always not being not
a real doctor because a Ph.D. is not an MD and I’m like really
So is it somebody else’s standards or can I feel good about having a Ph.D. egocentrism My perspective is the only
perspective I’ll being egocentric but it doesn’t work
most of the time so encouraging people to take alternate perspectives
Maybe you’re texting with someone and they say something that is not what you
interpret as not the nicest thing and this happens in text messages a lot and
they get upset now an egocentric thinking error would say that purse is
just grumpy today Someone who’s taking other perspectives would stop and go
back and read the text and go I wonder if maybe this could have been taken some
other another you know obvious reaction is not what I intended
So egocentrism if you hold on to that I don’t understand anybody else because
You know I don’t see a problem with anything personalizing and mind-reading This is when you assume that everybody’s
frowning because of something you did your boss walks down the hallway
and looks at you and grimaces and continues to walk on oh I must have done
something wrong No maybe he just got out of his senior management meeting that
was five hours long and he’s got to go to the bathroom you know there could be
a hundred different explanations for why that happened so encourage clients to
ask themselves what some alternate explanations for this event that are
doesn’t involve me you know why this might have happened if they hold
on to that, I must have done something wrong but as soon as their boss calls
them up and goes hey can you come to my office for a second you know where their
thoughts are going to go I’m getting fired I’m going to get laid off I don’t
know what it was that I did wrong but he walked by me two weeks ago in the
hallway and grimaced and I’m just I’m the worst person in the whole world
But where did that come from so encouraging people to not necessarily
assume they know what’s going on in someone else’s mind and not
automatically attributing every person’s negative behavior to something they did
How often and then ask them how often has it been about you
now think about the last 10 times you’ve taken something personally how many of
Those 10 times has it been about something you did versus something with
the other person then the availability heuristic remembering what’s most
prominent in your mind so asking clients what the facts ah the most obvious
One that we talk about is plane crashes You know it is very dangerous to fly on a
plane because you hear about all those plane crashes well yeah you hear about
the airlines crashes but don’t hear about the 20,000 every day that land
safely so you remember it and it seems more dangerous because that’s what is in
your mind that’s what is available to you that’s what you’ve based your
thought processes on because maybe you didn’t know that 20,000 planes or more
fly and land just perfectly every day this can also be true with people
remembering what’s most prominent in your mind sometimes and this can be very
very true in domestically violent relationships if somebody falls in love
with someone and that person is just the greatest person since sliced bread for
the first four months and then the cycle starts and there’s this little tiny
a sliver of the honeymoon period after the battering cycle and the person’s like
That’s the person I fell in love with that’s what I remember and they try to
focus on that that’s most prominent in their mind and they ignore the rest of
the stuff so we need to encourage people to look objectively at the facts magnifying high and
low probability outcomes what are the chances that this is going to happen how
Many clients have worked with have gone to the doctor and gotten into a
physical or get a test run and then the doctor had to call them back and
This could be true for you too and the doctor had to call them back two or
Three days later when the tests came back from the lab and that whole three
days they were just in a panic because they
were afraid they were going to get some terminal diagnosis so thinking about
high and low probability outcomes another instance or example of
magnification is somebody that thinks this is the end of the world whatever it
I think I’ve told you before my little story about um tripping when I
was walking down the hall at work and falling and yeah it was embarrassing my
folders went everywhere and yeah but in that big scheme of things will it matter
That much from now you know are people going to think Oh she is such a clutch she
must be a ditz too no I mean they may have thought that at that time I don’t
know but you know in six months nobody’s going to remember and then ask them in
the past when something like this has happened when you’ve had to get a test
done and you’ve had to wait on results or if you’ve done something that was
embarrassing and you didn’t think you thought everybody was going to remember
it forever how did you tolerate it how did you learn to deal with it building
on those strengths that they already have all-or-nothing thinking errors
These are things like love versus hate I love them or I hate them it’s all or
Nothing she does this all the time or she never does it if I’m going to do it
I’m going to do it perfectly or I’m not going to do it at all thank you all good
intentions or all bad intentions you know sometimes we do things with good
intentions that have some bad repercussions so did we do it with all
Bad intentions are all good intentions and the answer is neither most of the
time life is kind of in that middle-ground gray area encouraging clients to
Look and find examples where something hasn’t been one of the polls when have
they done something that they’re proud of that wasn’t perfect or when again
When has somebody else done something that they were proud of that wasn’t
perfect remembering that with availability
heuristic remembering how often something happens and how long it’s
been since you’ve seen that behavior and remember that sometimes good times are
amazing but how frequent are they compared with the bad times another thinking error is a belief in a
just world or a fallacy of fairness I just asked clients to identify for good
people you know who’ve had bad things happen and in in reality we all have bad
things happen good people do bad people do in between people do attributional
errors and this is a pet of mine you know labeling yourself is not a behavior so
global versus specific and I am stupid versus I’m stupid at math I don’t have
good math skills it’s not about me it’s about the skills I can change skills
stable I am and I always will be versus it’s something I can change it’s
something I can learn internally It’s about me as a person versus it’s about a
skill deficit or something I could learn or change and there’s you know lots of
information on attributions out there on the internet if you need a refresher on
it but we find that a lot of people who have dysphoria have negative global
stable internal attributions so questions for clients remember the
beliefs equal thoughts and facts plus personal interpretation another way of
saying it is reality is 10% perception is 10% reality and 90% interpretation so
what are the facts for and against my belief is the belief based on facts or
Feelings Does the belief focus on one aspect or the whole situation Does the
belief seem to use any thinking errors what are alternate explanations what
Would you tell your child or best friend if they had this belief how would you
want someone to tell what would you want someone to tell you about this belief so
If you’re telling somebody about this what are you hoping they’re going to say
in return and finally, how is this belief moving you toward what and who is
important to you or moving you away from what or who is important to you now they
can do a worksheet and have all of these or you can pick one or two of these
questions that are most salient for your clients but they can have kind of at
their fingertips so as they’re going through the day and something happens
They can ask themselves ok what’s an alternate explanation Or you know
Whatever it is this salient for that client’s irrational thoughts how do these
thoughts impact the client’s emotions health relationships and perceptions of
the world you know this is what we want to ask them How is this thought
impacting you globally how may this thought have been helpful in the past
Where did it come from How does it make sense from when you formed it in the
past when you’re dealing with it ask the person if the thought is bringing you
closer to those that are important Are there any examples of this thought or
belief not being true and how can the statement be made less global less
all-encompassing so it’s about a specific incident a specific situation
less stable which means you can change it and less internal which means it’s
not about who you are as a person but maybe something that you do or a skill
that you have so we’re going to go through some of these thoughts real
Quickly here mistakes are never acceptable and if I make one it means
that I’m incompetent well never is kind of stable and I am incompetent is kind
of global, that’s also that extreme all-or-nothing thinking so you can see
where these cognitive distortions end up leading to unhelpful beliefs
When somebody disagrees with me it’s a personal attack Well there’s
Personalization If I ever heard it before maybe it’s not about you may be
They’re having a bad day and you just happen to be the unlucky target or maybe
they’re disagreeing with you because they have a different point of view and
It’s not a personal attack it’s just their point of view If someone
criticizes or rejects me there must be something wrong with me
personalization all-or-nothing thinking global stable and internal something
wrong with me as a person to feel good about myself others must approve of me
Now this is one we’ve talked about external validation before and we can’t
control other people to feel good about yourself how can you do that
Besides necessarily requiring other people to approve of you to be
content in life I must be liked by all people Wow I’ve never met anybody who’s
liked by all people I’ve never even met anybody who’s been hated by all people
but it’s important to help clients see how this is dramatic to say all
people and for them to be content everybody has to like them
I mean I like to be liked but if everybody doesn’t like me you know
That’s pretty understandable My true value as an individual depends on what
others think of me I would challenge this one this is all you know
Also very personally I would challenge people to look at and say it
so your child’s value as an individual depends on what other people think of
Most people would say no but the perspective thing nothing ever turns
out the way you want it to okay all-or-nothing thinking and probably
availability heuristic if something bad just happened then they may be focusing
on that which causes them to focus on all the other bad things in the past
that have happened not to focus on that is okay you know bad thing
happen but look at all these good things I won’t try anything new unless I will
be good at it this fear of failure fear of rejection
It just really paralyzes a lot of people when they get stuck with that thinking
the area that they have to be perfect I am in total control of anything bad that
happens is my fault well that’s egocentric and personal if
They think they’re in total control that’s their perception of how the world
Do they think if they’ve got everybody on marionette strings anything
bad in the world that happens is their fault how powerful are they
I feel happy about uh if I feel happy about life something will go wrong
It happens sometimes but let’s look at times when you’ve been happy that
something hasn’t gone wrong you know let’s get rid of that all-or-nothing
thinking it’s not my fault my life didn’t go the way I wanted could be true
but it seems like that’s making you unhappy so what do we do about that if
I’m not in an intimate relationship I’m alone
No, again that’s pretty extreme I’m either in an intimate relationship or I
am alone and a loner and you know it’s just me and my 17 cats which follows
with there’s no gray area so encouraging people to look at what these
beliefs are saying important thoughts impact behaviors and emotional and
Physical reactions emotional and physical reactions impact thoughts and
interpretations of events so if you do something and it’s pleasurable
and you have a great physical reaction you know let’s take bungee jumping or
Skydiving if you go out there and it’s scary but you do it and you’re just like
Whoa what a rush Your interpretation of that is probably going to be good which
means you’ll probably do it again if you go out there and it’s just the most
horrible experience you’ve ever had you’re probably not going to do it again
and your interpretation of it is going to be not good which is going to make it
hard to understand why other people would do it irrational
thinking patterns are often caused by cognitive distortions so let’s just look
back at some of those because there are a lot fewer cognitive distortions or
general ways of thinking about the world then there are thinking errors because
There are lots and lots of thinking errors Cognitive distortions are often schemas
which were formed based on faulty inaccurate or immature knowledge or
understanding and by identifying the thoughts of the hecklers you know the
automatic tapes that maintain our unhappiness the person can choose
whether to accept those thoughts or change them.
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